Actually, I’ve been thinking about this all afternoon since reading this, and I’ve been getting more pissed off the more time goes by. It is not the left that wants to make gay relationships invalid in the eyes of the law, it is not the left that shows up at the funerals of soldiers with signs saying “GOD HATES FAGS.” I could go on. And that the daughter of parents whose views on “gay issues” is hardly tolerant, I find this rant of hers offensive. And in fact, find this post offensive.
I thought it was a wonderful, well-written article that calmly laid out her thoughts. I don’t feel bad about posting it at all.
Also, I think you’re missing the point of the article and focusing on just one sentence.
I think Bristol Palin’s point is demonstrated perfectly in your post. You have essentially said that someone who doesn’t support gay marriage is engaging in exactly the same behavior as the Westboro Baptists who picket soldiers’ funerals and say things like, “God hates fags.” Isn’t that an incredibly extreme view? Certainly you can’t think that someone who opposes gay marriage (as does Bristol Palin, apparently) must therefore believe that “God hates fags.” In fact, she says exactly the opposite – that she can have friendships with people whose views are different from hers and not be offended by it.
Not all Christians are inclusive, but neither is the left. Ms. Palin’s point is that she belives she should not be shamed into having an opinion on gay marriage that happens to go against the mainstream. Yet you have done exactly that; you have shamed her and held her up for ridicule. Regardless of how you feel about her views, you cannot sincerely believe that being opposed to gay marriage is equivalent to saying, “God hates fags.” Nor can you suggest that comparing her to a Westboro Baptist is in any way an “inclusive” or “tolerant” view. What do you think is more likely to change Ms. Palin’s view on gay marriage — comparing her to a Westboro Baptist, or putting her into a situation where she becomes good friends with someone who is gay and begins to understand his or her desire to marry?
Also, what her parents believe is entirely and wholly irrelevant unless she expressly adopts the views of her parents, which, from what I can see in this post, she has not done.
I would very much like to see Ms. Palin matched with someone on this show who is a homosexual and see if that experience changes her mind on the issue of gay marriage, and to see if the person who is gay has his mind changed at all on Christianity. I think both Ms. Palin and her dance partner could learn a lot from each other, provided they both enter into this experience with open minds and hearts. In other words, I hope they don’t go about their conversations the way that you have chosen to do.
And this is coming from someone who supports gay marriage.
The whole tone of the article was that gay people are second class citizens, “but I’ll dance with them anyway.” It amazes me how many straight people, how many Christians, think they are being “tolerant.” I’m going to shut up now because if I don’t, this is just going to get ugly.
To me, the point of the article was that people should just do what they are good at, regardless of their orientation. If you’re a great dancer, then you’re a great dancer, whether you like the opposite sex or your own. If you’re a great writer, then you’re a great writer. If you’re a great fill-in-the-blank, then you’re just great at it. To me, the article was saying I DON’T CARE IF THE PERSON IS GAY OR NOT, JUST GIVE ME A GOOD DANCER. 🙂 Two of my friends (one very good one) are gay, and I think that he would rather enjoy this article, to be honest.
Well written, yes, but…
“To the Left, “tolerance” means agreeing with them on, well, everything.”
Um, excuse me?? People on the left have NO monopoly on expecting everyone to agree with them.
Actually, I’ve been thinking about this all afternoon since reading this, and I’ve been getting more pissed off the more time goes by. It is not the left that wants to make gay relationships invalid in the eyes of the law, it is not the left that shows up at the funerals of soldiers with signs saying “GOD HATES FAGS.” I could go on. And that the daughter of parents whose views on “gay issues” is hardly tolerant, I find this rant of hers offensive. And in fact, find this post offensive.
I thought it was a wonderful, well-written article that calmly laid out her thoughts. I don’t feel bad about posting it at all.
Also, I think you’re missing the point of the article and focusing on just one sentence.
I think Bristol Palin’s point is demonstrated perfectly in your post. You have essentially said that someone who doesn’t support gay marriage is engaging in exactly the same behavior as the Westboro Baptists who picket soldiers’ funerals and say things like, “God hates fags.” Isn’t that an incredibly extreme view? Certainly you can’t think that someone who opposes gay marriage (as does Bristol Palin, apparently) must therefore believe that “God hates fags.” In fact, she says exactly the opposite – that she can have friendships with people whose views are different from hers and not be offended by it.
Not all Christians are inclusive, but neither is the left. Ms. Palin’s point is that she belives she should not be shamed into having an opinion on gay marriage that happens to go against the mainstream. Yet you have done exactly that; you have shamed her and held her up for ridicule. Regardless of how you feel about her views, you cannot sincerely believe that being opposed to gay marriage is equivalent to saying, “God hates fags.” Nor can you suggest that comparing her to a Westboro Baptist is in any way an “inclusive” or “tolerant” view. What do you think is more likely to change Ms. Palin’s view on gay marriage — comparing her to a Westboro Baptist, or putting her into a situation where she becomes good friends with someone who is gay and begins to understand his or her desire to marry?
Also, what her parents believe is entirely and wholly irrelevant unless she expressly adopts the views of her parents, which, from what I can see in this post, she has not done.
I would very much like to see Ms. Palin matched with someone on this show who is a homosexual and see if that experience changes her mind on the issue of gay marriage, and to see if the person who is gay has his mind changed at all on Christianity. I think both Ms. Palin and her dance partner could learn a lot from each other, provided they both enter into this experience with open minds and hearts. In other words, I hope they don’t go about their conversations the way that you have chosen to do.
And this is coming from someone who supports gay marriage.
Yes, this is very well written. 🙂
The whole tone of the article was that gay people are second class citizens, “but I’ll dance with them anyway.” It amazes me how many straight people, how many Christians, think they are being “tolerant.” I’m going to shut up now because if I don’t, this is just going to get ugly.
And by the way, I have no interest in being “tolerated”.
To me, the point of the article was that people should just do what they are good at, regardless of their orientation. If you’re a great dancer, then you’re a great dancer, whether you like the opposite sex or your own. If you’re a great writer, then you’re a great writer. If you’re a great fill-in-the-blank, then you’re just great at it. To me, the article was saying I DON’T CARE IF THE PERSON IS GAY OR NOT, JUST GIVE ME A GOOD DANCER. 🙂 Two of my friends (one very good one) are gay, and I think that he would rather enjoy this article, to be honest.
I respectfully disagree with you.